Wednesday, February 25, 2015

On objective moral values

The problem of knowing objective moral values, is that the idea of obtaining them either from divine commands in ancient texts or from our moral compass is not sound.      Our moral compass is the product of evolution, and just as  we can't even say our senses are an exact objective representation of the external world as they're subject to illusions so too can't we say that our moral compass somehow matches exactly with any possible objective moral values that may exist.    These morals we have are simply rules that confer reproductive advantage to agents within a societal species.   As for ancient texts, without substantial evidence to back them up(extraordinary evidence for extraordinary claims of such absolute authority), there is simply no valid reason to believe they offer any truth.

We have no REAL way of knowing which if any objective moral values actually exist.   Posit for example that we use artificial selection to cause humans to eventually become intrinsically immoral(by our standards) at least in some of these moral rules, and we provide them with fake ancient texts.   These people will have a wrong moral compass and wrong ancient texts, from our point of view.   For all we know we ourselves have been the subject of such an experiment from another entity or species.

As for god being intrinsically moral and good, and his godness making these properties absolutely correct and beyond contention, that is also unfounded.   Nothing about being God makes his morality absolute or correct unless you start by defining him as having absolutely correct morality as part of his definition from the start.   Now even if we assume that God has absolute correct morality and goodness as part of his definition(by basically assuming these to be so, that is that these are correct and absolute properties), we have no way to know what exactly classifies as TRUE GOODNESS nor absolute correct morality from an objective point of view, neither ancient texts nor our moral compass provide us with an objective way to define what is truly good or morally correct.  As previously mentioned, there is no way to connect these(moral compass, ancient texts) to absolute divine realm or entity, nor are they immune to corruption either by man, natural selection or artificial selection. 

No way to say that our notions of goodness and morality as we apply to the definition of god, actually correspond to any true goodness and true morality that may exist and be properties of a true god defined as truly good and truly moral, a species morally corrupted by say artificial selection might just apply erroneous notions of goodness and morality to a god and say these are the true properties of a true god defined as truly good and moral, but their corruption would show they've a false definition of god, goodness and morality... for all we know phenomena like natural selection might have provided us with corrupted intuitive notions regarding morality, goodness, and god.

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